left tomorrow, you know, the taliban and al qaeda are embedded on the other side of the boreder in pakistan. and we've seen this by the way in areas where the united states drew down recently in northeastern afghanistan and members of al qaeda kind of went and moved into the back. so it's not sort of an artificial construct this notion that we're providing a sanctuary for the troops. >> is the sanctuary in afrg and should it be a large-scale military operation or does the administration need to rethink its approach? >> well, i mean the administration is constantly rethinking their approach. >> they stayed stable though. 100,000 level on the ground. in the end it was a tactical mission that brought down osama bin laden. it was supported by a factor and orders of magnitude others supported that mission. you don't get 25 people and kill bin laden. the president said there will be 33,000 fewer troops in afghanistan by 2012 which is a significant drawdown. and zero combat troops in 2014. 68,000 will be withdrawn between 2012 and 2014. so i mean to phase withdrawal i think is good not to do it pr